Kristen & Jolenta chat with pop culture critic, comedian, writer and host of the podcast TV, I Say w Ashley Ray - you guessed it, Ashley Ray. The ladies chat about the explosion of self-help reality TV shows, their favorite self-help guru and cult documentaries, therapy on TV, and the queen of TV self-help, Oprah. Plus, they answer listener questions and Ashley shares her TV watch recommendations!

You can find Ashley Ray's podcast TV, I Say here: https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/tv-i-say-w-ashley-ray/id1535572126

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Check out Kristen's other podcasts!

The Royal Report from Newsweek https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/the-royal-report/id1603695814

Movie Therapy with Rafer & Kristen https://podcasts.apple.com/us/podcast/movie-therapy-with-rafer-kristen/id1508455193